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By: Elena Thomas

Julie Dodd, Franny Swann and Elena Thomas started a conversation online. They have never met. They only know each other through their blogs, and the occasional email. They decided they'd like to do some sort of work together, sometime, somewhere, somehow.They still haven't made any decisions, but this blog is their continuing conversation. 

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# 59 [25 October 2012]

I came across this artists work today when I was doing some research. Nothing to do with the research but thought I'd share. http://www.jordaneagles.com/hemoglyphs.html

His work is beautiful and yet so repulsive too. Watch his videos to see the processes of the work. Fascinating but stomach churning. http://www.jordaneagles.com/videos.html

Although very different they reminded me of something I saw at YSP a few years ago, the artist had painted with blood, made me feel so differently about the paintings when I read the statement.

Julie

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The work I saw at YSP was done by Andy Goldworthy http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3675693/Andy-Goldsworthy.html?image=4

posted on 2012-10-25 by Elena Thomas

# 58 [22 October 2012]

Did either of you see 'secret universe: the hidden life of the cell' on bbc2 last night? It was fasinating and easy enough for me to understand!! It was all about the structure of cells and how they work and fight against viruses. I'm going to watch it again on iplayer when I get the chance.

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Thanks! will do iplayer myself tomorrow or wed.

posted on 2012-10-22 by Elena Thomas

Medical image of malarial blood rosettes.Unknown photographer.

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Medical image of malarial blood rosettes.Unknown photographer.

# 57 [18 October 2012]

I haven't been on here for a while , but things are slowly happening on the PTB front, but as I don't have anything visual to offer and as you both have posted quite a lot of sketchbook pages I feel as if I have come to the party without a present!

As I say in my artist statement 'integral to each work is a word based research period - a filofax of facts'.  Posh way of saying I work by always diving into some research first which seems to settle me and allow me to think visually over the top of it while I sort he words out...

As I order and catalogue all that in my brain the visual ideas begin to come.

So - I have been looking at Malaria; which is a plasmodium. Love that word.

I keep unearthing interesting things...there are four kinds. Falciparum [lethal], Vivax, Maleri and Ovali. More brilliant words.

Malaria hides in the liver. You can get asexual parasites in blood cells. Malaria has shaped the human genome more than any other infectious disease. Malaria has been found before the arrival of humans- wow!

Now I need to find out what its pre - human host was ... riveting.

There is a complicated connection between sickle cell anemia and resistance to cerebral maleria involving a Swain Langley mutation. A fabulous word again...

Blood has a part in just everything going,. Staggering. Red blood cells are Erythrocytes - one cell bodies with no nucleus - so they can pick up O2 from tissues and take it back to the lungs.

Just think about that for a minute. ..

Still interested in my malarial blood rosettes....... the more I research the more fascinated I become.........

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Plasmodium palladium pandemonium. I love the words too.

posted on 2012-10-22 by Elena Thomas

Elena Thomas, 'Silk veins', unspun silk fibres on paper, Oct 2012. Stitching through the paper had bent my needle and made holes in my fingers.

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Elena Thomas, 'Silk veins', unspun silk fibres on paper, Oct 2012. Stitching through the paper had bent my needle and made holes in my fingers.

# 56 [16 October 2012]

Current thinking then... on the blood stream front... becoming fascinated by the patterns of veining through nature, and the manmade equivalents which seem to follow similar lines and patters. I have maps of the midlands, and pictures of leaves and the stomach linings used to wrap things like faggots in my farm butcher's display fridge. Twigs, cracks in brickwork. wherever I see it I note it and draw it, or take a photo. A collection is building slowly. I'm sure something will happen with them at some point soon. 

Julie Dodd, 'experiments that didn't get any further'. these reminded me to much of Faberge eggs (they should have looked like clustering blood cells)

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Julie Dodd, 'experiments that didn't get any further'. these reminded me to much of Faberge eggs (they should have looked like clustering blood cells)

Julie Dodd. one off book using wire

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Julie Dodd. one off book using wire

Julie Dodd. I quite liked this but I still took it to pieces and started again. I was interested in the unused but kind of used at the same time space in the middle. But it was to hard to store and kept getting squashed

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Julie Dodd. I quite liked this but I still took it to pieces and started again. I was interested in the unused but kind of used at the same time space in the middle. But it was to hard to store and kept getting squashed

Julie Dodd. I'm sure youve both seen these before. I never quite got there with these either but they are saved to do more work to when I know what it is I want to do

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Julie Dodd. I'm sure youve both seen these before. I never quite got there with these either but they are saved to do more work to when I know what it is I want to do

Julie Dodd, 'Blood Streams'. I know you've both seen these. I'm happy with them.

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Julie Dodd, 'Blood Streams'. I know you've both seen these. I'm happy with them.

# 55 [19 September 2012]

I love your wire drawings Elena. I enjoy working in wire too, but I cant let myself be free enough to draw with it, we did a session when I was doing mydegree using wire in a life drawing class and I was rubbish, I was using it to make a sort of very small mannequin when the idea was for it to sort of be flat still. I just couldn't do it! I do like constructing with it though, using it to sort of bind prints together, I do this a lot, some of it successful and some of it not! I don't feel I've completely found my way with it yet.

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I think it's often a question of finding the right wire for the job.

posted on 2012-09-20 by Elena Thomas

I can see them with light inside...

posted on 2012-09-19 by Elena Thomas

I dismantled the 'eggs' to make other the other work I was equally not happy with but I would like to do something that encased something else, hmmmm... I agree the circles held together with wire are quite like your drawings.

posted on 2012-09-19 by Julie Dodd

The egg shapes are great, Julie! And the circles held together with wire are a bit like the orange drawings I posted with the lungs in a previous post. I can see the eggs being used to encase something else...

posted on 2012-09-19 by Elena Thomas

Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

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Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

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Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

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Elena Thomas, 'wire drawings'.

# 54 [18 September 2012]

Now this is getting very interesting indeed you two!

e

Julie Dodd. more lung tissue ideas

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Julie Dodd. more lung tissue ideas

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# 53 [18 September 2012]

Here's more, some from my Elena and Franny ideas and some from my 'jot it down before you forget' sketch book. The ideas are often things I think I can use for both me or/and us anyway and even in my head often overlap or become the same thing. Weirdly I drew a pattern idea for our ptb and whilst going through my jot it down sketch book I found almost the same sketch!

Julie

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from right at the beginning

Julie Dodd, 'Lung Tissue development'.

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Julie Dodd, 'Lung Tissue development'.

'nerves'.

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'nerves'.

Julie Dodd.

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Julie Dodd.

# 52 [17 September 2012]

Okay, don't laugh! I don't like showing sketch book work, I'm a maker and the main reason I don't really sketch is that without heavily annotating what I draw I haven't got the foggiest idea what I've drawn or what I was thinking when I go back and look over what I've done!!

This is early stuff when I was first thinking of working with microscopic type images. I only have a few pages and then I gave up because I need to be making maquettes instead!

Julie

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...and why would we laugh? looks pretty good to me, no different to mine, I also do a combination of drawing writing and making.

posted on 2012-09-17 by Elena Thomas

oh wow, there are real visual links and similarities here don't you think... lungs.... mmmm..... and the wire work I was talking about, some of it looks like your developing lung tissue drawing. At the beginning of this, I thought we'd do 3 separate pieces of work, which I think we could, obviously, but the more I hear and see of yours and Franny's ideas, the more I think we should actually make a joint piece too?

posted on 2012-09-17 by Elena Thomas

Elena Thomas, 'cells/skin', sketch book pen and wash.

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Elena Thomas, 'cells/skin', sketch book pen and wash.

Elena Thomas, 'screen', sketch book pen and wash.

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Elena Thomas, 'screen', sketch book pen and wash.

# 51 [17 September 2012]

The wiggly lines/cells and skin, I had pictured as a screen people could walk around. I quite like the idea of an installation of a number of screens through which we can see or not see, communicate or not?

Franny's mattress support could be displayed as a screen too?

e

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Hi Franny and Elena, thank you both so much for your kind comments on my blog. I am really intrigued to read your joint blog, such a great idea, and so nice to collaborate online. I look forward to hopefully meeting Julie at the SCIBase Bridewell show in L'pool in a couple weeks!

posted on 2012-09-17 by Jean McEwan

Elena Thomas, 'Blurry photos and print', Sept 2012.

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Elena Thomas, 'Blurry photos and print', Sept 2012.

Elena Thomas.

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Elena Thomas.

Elena Thomas, 'sketch book lungs'.

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Elena Thomas, 'sketch book lungs'.

Elena Thomas, 'cells inside'.

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Elena Thomas, 'cells inside'.

# 50 [17 September 2012]

I've got some scribbles and ideas too in my ptb sketch/note book, could add those too.
there is an article in one of my selvedge magazines about medical/surgical textiles, will find it for you, could be some links there.I'd like us to put a huge piece of paper on a big table and get all these ideas in one place and link them together to see what we come up with.doing things with wire.... I did some wire writing a while back... text as support for the rosettes? At some point I think we should even have a workshop session together. Actually... maybe that could be a proposal worth setting out.... the DOING of it, not just the results? ptb goes on tour. 3 pieces of work, in 3 venues, made by 3 people from just what they take into a room - what do you think?

(I can't find an online version of the article, but it's in selvedge magazine, issue 15, p47 by Marie O'Mahoney)



 

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Elena Thomas

Julie Dodd

I'm an installation artist mainly working with paper. Recycling materials also feature in my work and I concentrate on environmental issues.

http://www.a-n.co.uk/artists_talking/projects/single/648002

 

Elena Thomas

I use clothes, stitches, sounds, text and songs bundled together to express ideas of parenting, and safety and risk in childhood.

http://www.a-n.co.uk/artists_talking/projects/single/1322260

 

Franny Swann

Central to my practice is the concept of artist as curator.

Collected archivings of loss are underpinned and referenced by memory and memorial.

http://www.a-n.co.uk/artists_talking/projects/myProjects